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I said this once before, creation does not equal control.

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You havent listened to a word i have said, ive said clearly that its not it control its the path hes made, he made our life for us you and i live for him with no choice.

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

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He didn't 'make' the path, we choose it. That is what 'free will' is. And that's what MY God allows me, the freedom to choose my path.

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I disagree

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

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The one you have 'chosen' to disbelieve in may not give you free will, but MY God is not that god.

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Your God omni(everything) so you dont have free will

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

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That He is 'all everything' also means that He has the power to allow free will. And I believe that He does allow us that freedom. I don't believe in your god.

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Again example of Omnipotence paradox, he can't give free will if he is at the beginning at the end, as norock has said 'THERE IS ONLY ONE PATH' certainly from the beginning and end of mortal life. The fact that he is 'omnipotent' is in contest that he cannot give free will because his will is imposed on his creations. His omnipotence vanishes in an explosion of confusion, 'I can do anything other than alter what i have imposed that people live to do'. You agree its his will to create us? You agree there is only one path at the end of mortal life?

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

You say He "cannot give free will because His will is imposed on His creations." That sounds like you are limiting Him. I say He can give us free will. Being omnipotent, He does have the power to do that. You are being a little contradictory with your statements. He is either omnipotent or He is not. I choose is.

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Don't laugh at me, Don't call me names
Don't get your pleasure from my pain
In God's eyes we're all the same
Someday we'll all have perfect wings

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At the end of mortal life, looking back, yes, there is only one path. But that path is made up by the 'choices' made during that life. Choices, once made, cannot be altered. But those 'choices' are still ours to make.  

You say He "cannot give free will because His will is imposed on His creations." That sounds like you are limiting Him. I say He can give us free will. Being omnipotent, He does have the power to do that. You are being a little contradictory with your statements. He is either omnipotent or He is not. I choose is.

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Omnipotence is contradictory itself, its a label that was given to him to add to his image of awe. It is an impossibility because it is falls in on itself with contradictory, and even in his position as God, there is nothing that could or can be omnipotent. You are also limiting your God because by accepting free will you are accepting that God cannot not give us free will. There that is something he cannot do, aswell as not being able to control his existence.


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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

But I'll accept that omnipotence is a label we use because it best describes what we can comprehend. We cannot, however, actually comprehend a God who can do all of what most of us (who believe) ascribe to Him.

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Don't laugh at me, Don't call me names
Don't get your pleasure from my pain
In God's eyes we're all the same
Someday we'll all have perfect wings

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I'm sorry, I don't understand most of what you just said. By accepting free will, I'm accepting that He cannot give us free will?  

But I'll accept that omnipotence is a label we use because it best describes what we can comprehend. We cannot, however, actually comprehend a God who can do all of what most of us (who believe) ascribe to Him.

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Cannot not give us free will, or intervene in free will you are limiting him.
Omnipotence is a human concept and was made to be understood that who is omnipotence can do anything, its not a hard thing to understand, its an easy thing to see fallacies in.
I dont think you could accept that omnipotence is contradictory because as soon as you would realise it makes no sense your God is reduced to something that is no longer worthy of what he has 'done'.

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

And your description of omnipotence is exactly what I mean when I say we cannot 'comprehend' the God to whom we have given that 'label'. If we can 'see the fallacies' then we don't truly understand the concept.

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Don't laugh at me, Don't call me names
Don't get your pleasure from my pain
In God's eyes we're all the same
Someday we'll all have perfect wings

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I've never said that He cannot not give us free will. Nor have I indicated that He is unable to interfere with that free will if He so desires.  

And your description of omnipotence is exactly what I mean when I say we cannot 'comprehend' the God to whom we have given that 'label'. If we can 'see the fallacies' then we don't truly understand the concept.

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You didnt need to your belief in omnipotence spoke for you.
Can an omnipotent being do everything at once? Can he be idle and moving amongst everything else? Or will you answer can he control his existence? No he cannot, its an impossiblity.
If we can see the fallacies we cant understand it only because it makes no sense.

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

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The omnipotence that I believe my God has, has no restrictions or limits that I can comprehend. The questions you raise are purely from a human standpoint. Does this god you don't believe in have human traits? (read your signature, the first six words are very true)

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Your omnipotence makes no sense

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei