Time is a fundamental property of OUR existence. WE exist in our time.

You seem so willing to accept omniscience and such, however those are far further away from our fundamental properties of existence than a lack of time...

Re-read some of the earlier posts, God CAN NOT exist in our time, but that does not mean that he does not exist. [time is merely a dimension of space, and likewise, space is a dimension of time. If god does not exist within our space time [which he can not if he is to be the creator] then why would he be limited by the dimensions of its construct?

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As long as the things I believe don't contradict what Christianity does teach, why would they be irrelevant? At least to me...  

You apparently don't subscribe to free will. I do. None of that paragraph is close to describing anything I believe in.

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Orthodox Christianity teaches that all are damned and need salvation. Conventional Christian belief teaches that all have the free will to choose to accept or reject salvation, and therefore, those who are damned are damned justly by Jehovah for having "chosen" to reject salvation.

However, Christianity also teaches that Jehovah is all knowing. If Jehovah knows what choices you are going to make, then he knows who's damned before he creates them. If Jehovah does not offer the choice of whether or not to "play the game," whether or not to be put in the situation of choosing or rejecting salvation, then we do not have free will. We are compelled to make the choices that Jehovah knows we would.

It doesn't matter if you feel like believing free will. If you accept what Christianity teaches about Jehovah's knowledge and power, and you accept Christianity's salvation scheme then you are simply ignoring the consequence of 1 + 1 by affirming the idea of our free choice in the matter of our salvation.

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Time is a fundamental property of existence, and if you dont want to accept that then God was/is stuck still without any progression or anywhere to come from in order to move or do anything

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That you constantly have to view God through human eyes is your own limitation, not a limit on God. We coin words to describe Him (as best we can) and then refute Him based on the definition of those same words, how contradictory is that?

And you wonder why I didn't really feel comfortable getting into this discussion? When I try to explain my God to you and you use your god to try to tell me why my God is either too fallible to be a real god or is non-existent.

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Don't laugh at me, Don't call me names
Don't get your pleasure from my pain
In God's eyes we're all the same
Someday we'll all have perfect wings

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:17 pm on May 10, 2008

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As long as the things I believe don't contradict what Christianity does teach, why would they be irrelevant? At least to me...    

 You apparently don't subscribe to free will. I do. None of that paragraph is close to describing anything I believe in.

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Orthodox Christianity teaches that all are damned and need salvation. Conventional Christian belief teaches that all have the free will to choose to accept or reject salvation, and therefore, those who are damned are damned justly by Jehovah for having "chosen" to reject salvation.

However, Christianity also teaches that Jehovah is all knowing. If Jehovah knows what choices you are going to make, then he knows who's damned before he creates them. If Jehovah does not offer the choice of whether or not to "play the game," whether or not to be put in the situation of choosing or rejecting salvation, then we do not have free will. We are compelled to make the choices that Jehovah knows we would.

It doesn't matter if you feel like believing free will. If you accept what Christianity teaches about Jehovah's knowledge and power, and you accept Christianity's salvation scheme then you are simply ignoring the consequence of 1 + 1 by affirming the idea of our free choice in the matter of our salvation.

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My relationship with the Father and Jesus is not that constricted. If I were not free to make choices, there would be no point to the idea of forgiveness.

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Don't laugh at me, Don't call me names
Don't get your pleasure from my pain
In God's eyes we're all the same
Someday we'll all have perfect wings