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The Samsoniteman
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Has murder been defined in the Bible? This isn't a rhetorical question, I have no idea. You could say that abortion isn't murder in UK courts because of X, Y and Z but this obviously isn't enough.
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The Samsoniteman
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Do you put any weight on what a bunch of Jews thousands of years ago thought on the matter, or rely more on your own evil culturally relevant modern thoughts, or none of the above?
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Takinam
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:21 pm on June 27, 2008
 Quote: from Takinam at 9:09 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:06 pm on June 27, 2008
Except that, um, he doesn't believe in God. 
He doesn't have to believe in God to point out a blatant contradiction that his believers seem to subscribe too.
So it's okay to deny his belief with a statement like that?
I don't much about his statement but the fact remains that he doesn't have to subscribe to belief in God to understand the contradictory nature of his actions as evidenced through careful observation of life. If one does believe in God, then one must submit to the fact that God allows miscarriages to occur. Therefore, he is an abortionist. Therefore, he is contradictory. Therefore, he is a murderer. Post edited at 7:31 pm on June 27, 2008 by Takinam
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Forever Angel
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Quote: from Takinam at 9:26 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:21 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Takinam at 9:09 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:06 pm on June 27, 2008
Except that, um, he doesn't believe in God.
He doesn't have to believe in God to point out a blatant contradiction that his believers seem to subscribe too.
So it's okay to deny his belief with a statement like that?
Lmao. I see my point went over your head. Okay, I'll elaborate. God, in my mind, is a fictional character. I know he exists in a fictional sense. He has no personality other than what is described through religious scripture. Therefore, through simply study (and without true belief), I can know just as much about God as you can. Just as you can recite a biblical quote, I can do the same. I can see a contradiction in his sayings just as I can see a contradiction in the saying of another fictional character. I did not have to believe in the absolute existence of Little Red Riding Hood to assert that she was a tad naive in her absolute trust in her wooly grandmother as evidenced through her actions in the story.
No, dear, it didn't go over my head. But for someone to try to tell me that my God causes more abortions than anyone, he has to believe that my God exists. If he doesn't believe in my God, then he's just spouting BS that even he doesn't believe. How can I take that seriously?
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Takinam
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:38 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Takinam at 9:26 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:21 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Takinam at 9:09 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:06 pm on June 27, 2008
Except that, um, he doesn't believe in God.
He doesn't have to believe in God to point out a blatant contradiction that his believers seem to subscribe too.
So it's okay to deny his belief with a statement like that?
Lmao. I see my point went over your head. Okay, I'll elaborate. God, in my mind, is a fictional character. I know he exists in a fictional sense. He has no personality other than what is described through religious scripture. Therefore, through simply study (and without true belief), I can know just as much about God as you can. Just as you can recite a biblical quote, I can do the same. I can see a contradiction in his sayings just as I can see a contradiction in the saying of another fictional character. I did not have to believe in the absolute existence of Little Red Riding Hood to assert that she was a tad naive in her absolute trust in her wooly grandmother as evidenced through her actions in the story.
No, dear, it didn't go over my head. But for someone to try to tell me that my God causes more abortions than anyone, he has to believe that my God exists. If he doesn't believe in my God, then he's just spouting BS that even he doesn't believe. How can I take that seriously?
I'm working under the assumption that he exists in the context of the situation. I am assuming he exists so I can prove a point. I do not have to believe in God to assume that a person who does believe in God must then submit to the fact that the God they believe in is a hypocrite and a murderer. If a believer says that God disapproves of abortion. Then God is a hypocrite if he commits abortion. If a believer says that God is righteous and has never advocated killing nor killed.
Then God is a hypocrite if he is not righteous and has killed. --- God is revered for a reason. If that reason is for the evil that his power can command and the propaganda he sprouts forth..then..why serve him? Why serve a malevolent being of infinite power?
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Forever Angel
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That logic serves no purpose. If you disbelieve in my God, and He is such a threat to you that you have to attack Him, trying to make me believe He is a bad guy isn't changing my belief in Him, just what I believe about Him. But in my case that's hypothetical anyway because I know my God better than that.
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Quote: from Takinam at 9:59 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 6:57 pm on June 27, 2008
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 9:56 pm on June 27, 2008
Has murder been defined in the Bible? This isn't a rhetorical question, I have no idea. You could say that abortion isn't murder in UK courts because of X, Y and Z but this obviously isn't enough.
I'm not sure, to be honest. The Bible doesn't give a lot of set definitions for things...makes you wish a cultural context came with every copy.
I really don't remember the government citing the bible as logical reference for law making. Perhaps, its wrong to think that a religious scripture full of contradictions and plot holes should be used to judge any such sensitive issue as murder.
*facepalm* Read the context of the conversation, n00b. No one was suggesting that the Bible's definition of murder be the one used in making laws and policies and, furthermore, 99% of the "contradictions" and "plot holes" cease to exist when the Bible is considered in proper context. Try again.
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