Yes I do...

Very much so...

Also dislike him for his stance on the Kyoto Treaty and him and his administration not coming up with an alternative after his rejection of the Kyoto Treaty...

Wouldn't go as far as to say I hate him but I do disagree with most of his policies.

(Edited by Daylight Dancer at 7:32 pm on July 11, 2005)

especially the part where he went up to ppl in congress and asked them to sign their child into the war............................  who would have thought that they said 'no'?


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especially the part where he went up to ppl in congress and asked them to sign their child into the war............................  who would have thought that they said 'no'?

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Yeah, when I watched Farenheit 9/11 I thought it was good but it's always that bit what sticks with me.

I am not defending Bush here, it just makes you look stupid when lies are all you have to use against him.

Anyway, on the Bush-bashing front, I found this funny:

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Please don't get me started with that Fahrenheit 9/11 crap, that thing is nothing more than propaganda.  Half the people in it didn't even give their permission to Moore  to use their likenesses.  Many people who were "interviewed" were really just clips from other programs that were taken severely out of context.  Not to mention the way he claims to support our troops yet portrays them as blood-hungry pigs.  

I am not defending Bush here, it just makes you look stupid when lies are all you have to use against him.  

Anyway, on the Bush-bashing front, I found this funny:  

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Go back and watch the film again.  

Michael Moores only comment on the US troops was that the vast majority of them were from areas with huge levels of unemployment and were towns which were almost forgotten about and how basically the soldiers were all 'poor' kids.  

Hence why he approached congressmen who are obviously wealthy people and giving them the opportunity of sending their children to the war.  

It's the classic ideology found in two different songs over 30 years apart:  

Black Sabbath - War Pigs (1971 release)

Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out into a fight....They leave that to the poor

System Of A Down - BYOB (2005 release)

Blast off it's party time. And where the fuck are you? where the fuck are you? where the fuck are you? why don't presidents fight the war? why do they always send the poor?

Whether you like to admit it or not, Michael Moore is correct.

(Edited by Daylight Dancer at 8:38 pm on July 11, 2005)

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Conservatives may not like Moore's editorial practices, but nearly all the information presented in the film is factually true, included plenty of damning clips of Bush himself.   Truth sometimes hurts.

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Hahaha, I guess you don't know what propaganda is. He uses carefully selected "facts" and "evidence" to spin the heck out of the administration's policies.

He is misleading and a detriment to informed decision-making.

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When a man leaves his darkness, he follows the Son.

Care to list your qualifications for this expertism?

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And what makes you a better judge of propaganda than I am?  

Care to list your qualifications for this expertism?

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I know what propaganda is and you don't?

Just a guess, no need to get testy.

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When a man leaves his darkness, he follows the Son.