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Do you hate Bush and why?
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Choice Votes Percent  
Yes, Bush is teh sux! 554 27%
Yes, I have reasons for hating Bush 794 38%
Eh whatever he sucks, but not worse than most others 189 9%
Hey at least it wasn't Kerry or Gore 242 11%
No, how can you hate Bush he is 1337 267 13%
Vote Now! 2046 Votes Cast
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Quote: from IamNotBritish at 7:15 pm on July 21, 2005

Quote: from ZenaGirl at 10:46 am on July 21, 2005

Quote: from IamNotBritish at 2:33 am on July 21, 2005

The tax breaks were for everyone. I can't understand how you can continue to spread something that is a blatant lie.
 
  Yes, but the rich got far more than the poor. To a millionaire $5000 is pocket change, but low income people got only a pittance.


Hello, have you heard of something called percentages?
If you pay more in taxes, obviously you will get more back. Of you want a flat tax cut, there must be a flat tax.

That doesn't help the low-income people who are just scraping by trying to make ends meet, often forgoing things that they need, while rich people will just blow additional money on needless luxuries.  (and yes, I know you republicans don't care about poor people but I do.)

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Quote: from ZenaGirl at 3:14 am on July 22, 2005

 That doesn't help the low-income people who are just scraping by trying to make ends meet, often forgoing things that they need, while rich people will just blow additional money on needless luxuries.  (and yes, I know you republicans don't care about poor people but I do.)


That's not an argument against the tax cuts, that's an argument against being rich. Do you have a problem with Americans working hard to earn money and live well?

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And also, most Republicans do care about the poor, we just think that giving to charity should be an option, not something mandated by the federal government (as that would be unconstitutional).

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Paragraph 1: War On Terrorism
Paragraph 2: Michael Moore Farenheit 9/11
Paragraph 3: My Views on Bush


this isnt really the direction where the topic was heading but... Almost everybody in the US Military wants to be there. They want to serve our country and most importantly they WANT to be in Iraq. My brother serves in the military and is currently being shipped out to Iraq. He is always saying how everybody who is going is all jazzed up about it. Really its only the dumbass fuckers that sign up for the military in a combat position and don't want to go to war. I think that the War On Terrorism was necessary but I dont like how he went and started to do other things while we were there.

About Michael Moore... When he "interviewed" the congressmen about signing up their children to join, I thought that was complete bullshit and unnecessary. I mean, it isnt even the choice of the father to have their child go into the military. If you were to ask just about ANY father or mother about signing up their child to go to war, they would say no. So in that regard I found totally usless crap that would get all the dumbasses to think that there is a conspiracy against the poor.

I'm not a big supporter of Bush. I actually voted, He is better than Kerry or Gore. I think that Bush is doing alright by this country, he is not trying to make this countr go to hell, he is doing his best to make it better in his eyes. I really hate how much this country bashes our President, I think that is the worst thing of all. I mean, for god sakes he is our leader, Why the fuck should we critisize and make fun of him so much? That really doesnt make us look like a strong country.

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you have to remember the liberal tax code which i've posted enough times before

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 4:06 am on July 22, 2005

you have to remember the liberal tax code which i've posted enough times before

Hmm, don't recall it. Do you have a link?

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http://www.golivewire.com/forums/myposts.cgi?searchquery=liberal+tax&content=topics

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 4:47 am on July 22, 2005

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/myposts.cgi?searchquery=liberal+tax&content=topics

Haha, oh yeah, forgot about that one.

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Quote: from IamNotBritish at 2:23 am on July 22, 2005

And also, most Republicans do care about the poor, we just think that giving to charity should be an option, not something mandated by the federal government (as that would be unconstitutional).

That's a good idea, but let me ask you, in all fairness, why then should it be mandatory to give large amounts of money to the rich, then? And why should we cut our government revenues each year if we are going to keep spending more and more?

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George Bush: He makes Richard Nixon seem honest, Ronald Reagan seem smart, and his father seem coherent.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 4:47 am on July 22, 2005

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/myposts.cgi?searchquery=liberal+tax&content=topics

You illiterate conservative retard trash!

$500k< = 99%
$200k - $500k = 90%
>$200k = 0%

is supposed to be

$500k< = 99%
$200k - $500k = 90%
<$200k = 0%

Stupid n00b.

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wow i made a typo last october...

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Quote: from AtheistAlex at 5:24 am on July 22, 2005


That's a good idea, but let me ask you, in all fairness, why then should it be mandatory to give large amounts of money to the rich, then?

Uhh, because it's their money? They paid it into the system and they are getting it back.


And why should we cut our government revenues each year if we are going to keep spending more and more?

Actually, the deficit is projected to be greatly reduced over the next few years.

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going to take a major raise in taxes and cut in spending to even begin to touch the debt

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Just one year ago, the Nation’s economy was still emerging from the effects of multiple shocks. Last year’s Budget estimated a deficit of 4.5 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in 2004, or $521 billion. Private and other forecasters had similar deficit expectations. Largely because economic growth generated stronger revenues than originally estimated, and because the Congress adhered to the spending restraint called for in the President’s Budget, the 2004 deficit came in $109 billion lower than expected, at $412 billion, or 3.6 percent of GDP.

   The 2005 Budget, while providing needed increases for overall homeland security and defense spending, still held overall discretionary spending growth to 4 percent for the second year in a row. Non-security discretionary spending growth declined for the fourth year in a row, down from a high of 15 percent in the final budget year of the prior Administration to about one percent in 2005.

   The President’s 2006 Budget demonstrates even greater restraint: it is the first Budget to propose a cut in non-security discretionary spending since the Reagan Administration. Even with significant increases in security-related spending, the 2006 Budget holds overall discretionary spending to 2.1 percent growth, which is just below the projected rate of inflation. In other words, after providing substantial increases for protecting America at home and abroad, overall discretionary spending will still be reduced in real terms.

   In the area of non-defense discretionary spending, this Budget proposes more than 150 program reductions and eliminations, saving a total of about $20 billion dollars in 2006 alone. Discretionary spending is subject to the annual appropriations process and is therefore easier to control because legislation must generally be enacted each year for programs to continue.

   Spending on mandatory programs is more difficult to restrain because these programs generally operate based on formulas that are not subject to annual review. Consequently, when these programs grow faster than originally envisioned, which is often the case, there is no automatic mechanism to impose restraint. The only way to constrain the growth of mandatory spending is by enacting new laws that change the rules governing spending. The 2006 Budget proposes significant reforms in mandatory programs, saving a total of $137 billion over a 10-year period.

[url]http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2006/outlook.html[/url]

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