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Obama Is Not Communist
Replies: 11Last Post Oct. 11 8:24pm by Forever Angel
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If Obama is anything we can Consider him a Social Democrat. Tony Blair can be considered one too.

In general, contemporary social democrats support:

A mixed economy consisting mainly of private enterprise, but with government owned or subsidized programs of education, healthcare, child care and related services for all citizens.
Government bodies that regulate private enterprise in the interests of workers, consumers and fair competition.
Advocacy of fair trade over free trade.
An extensive system of social security (although usually not to the extent advocated by democratic socialists or other socialist groups), with the stated goal of counteracting the effects of poverty and insuring the citizens against loss of income following illness, unemployment or retirement.
Moderate to high levels of taxation (through a value-added and/or progressive taxation system) to fund government expenditure.
Social democrats also tend to support:

Environmental protection laws (although not always to the extent advocated by Greens), such as combating global warming and increasing alternative energy funding.
Support for immigration and multiculturalism.
A secular and progressive social policy, although this varies markedly in degree.
A foreign policy supporting the promotion of democracy, the protection of human rights and where possible, effective multilateralism.
As well as human rights, social democrats also support social rights, civil rights and civil liberties.


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Tony Blair was the best. Ever.

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I'm a democratic socialist so there are things on that list I am very reluctant to agree with.

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I'm scared for the election.

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If he was communist there is no way in hell i would support him.




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most people dont even know what communist means.
They use "communist" and "fascist" as insults, not realising that they are actually both pretty good ideas in their own right.
They arent all about evil dictatorships and genocide.
And yeah, Tony was a social democrat, as IS the Labour party he came from.
Obama rules.

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Quote: from latin muscle at 1:53 pm on Oct. 10, 2008

If he was communist there is no way in hell i would support him.

 



I myself find many Communists on the Far Left to be too Radical for my tastes.

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Quote: from SunnySky at 3:54 pm on Oct. 10, 2008

Quote: from latin muscle at 1:53 pm on Oct. 10, 2008

If he was communist there is no way in hell i would support him.

I myself find many Communists on the Far Left to be too Radical for my tastes.

Yet both of you support an extremely liberal socialist.

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"Liberal socialist" is a dishonest and ineradicable statement. Socialism was a natural outgrowth of classical liberalism, and contemporary liberalism was influenced by socialism, but "liberal socialist" is Orwellian speak. "Conservative liberal" even makes more sense.

- Your neighborhood communist.  

Post edited at 5:53 am on Oct. 11, 2008 by GeneCosta

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Quote: from GeneCosta at 7:52 am on Oct. 11, 2008

"Liberal socialist" is a dishonest and ineradicable statement. Socialism was a natural outgrowth of classical liberalism, and contemporary liberalism was influenced by socialism, but "liberal socialist" is Orwellian speak. "Conservative liberal" even makes more sense.

- Your neighborhood communist.


Trying to sound more intelligent than you are is disingenuous.

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You possessing any intelligence to start with is dubious.

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Quote: from GeneCosta at 4:57 pm on Oct. 11, 2008

You possessing any intelligence to start with is dubious.
Lol, tell me... what does "ineradicable" mean?

You crack me up, Gene. How can I take you seriously?

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