And then if we start talking about non-visible mental health problems? Wow. List explosion.
To be honest with my disability I can still get a job and support myself when i'm old enough, which I fully intend to do. I think the money my parents got was really useful, because the software I have on the computer to read the screen cost over £700. Then there's braille books, which have only just come down to the same price as print books.
I think that there are ways people with disabilities can live without the help of the government, but for parents raising a child with a physical or mental disability that will severely affect their life it can be useful. When I say that I mean for disabilities that are far more serious than my own, and that require a lot more medical care.
I understand why taxe payers get frustrated, because often they get very little or nothing back from the money they put into the government.
Sure, I obtained my degree. But, you got to understand, that my illness set in in my junior year. I was manic my Freshman and Sophomore year. I could do whatever. I was invincible. I could write a god-damned essay on my deterioration. I slid by for two years after my insane mania. I couldn't even get a C- in most classes.
I am sure you understand that. I have had MANY jobs. All of which made me SUICIDAL. I was ready to jump off of the Norman Wood Bridge (a 190 foot bridge near my house). Us Bipolar people all have unique symptoms, and that NEEDS to be understood. I just hope you understand my unique situation. Work, to me, represents slavery. It is as simple as that. Delusional thinking goes along with the so-called "mixed state", which unfortunately occupies most of my time. Seven fucking medications, and I still am stuck in a mixed state. WTF, I ask! I am NOT on the road to normalcy. I am simply trying to keep from suicide.
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Oh, yeah, I am no freeloader. I am ACTIVELY looking for work, and have slaved for four years to earn my Bachelor's degree in Mathematics, which is one of the hardest majors there is. You are a presumptuous, volatile creature that, frankly, needs to take a fucking antipsychotic yourself. Go get an IM of Zyprexa.
But really, if you can say: "I still can't function enough to do jack shit", then how can you say you were able to finish a college degree? College is harder than a job in a lot of cases, and being successful in school is even harder. I'm glad you decided to go to school and try, that's better than sitting on your ass and doing nothing, but it doesn't change the situation that you've presented. Sure, I had to assume some things in order to form an argument, but nothing I've said is that far from the truth. If it's not true for your case, it's true for someone else and I'm not just talking about you I'm talking about the whole system. The system is flawed, it shouldn't have been available to you in the first in the way that it was presented to you. I know people can't fully support themselves on disability payments alone, I have family members who use it to supplement their income. Do I think they are abusing the system? Of course they are, because there are other things they could do to improve their situation. I'm a firm believer that if there is ALWAYS a way to change it. My family member I mentioned gets disability because of having diabetes for so long that her feet are totally messed up, and she claims she can't work a full time schedule because of it, therefore gets supplementation from the government. My aunt could stop working as a waitress and get a desk job somewhere, she's more than qualified to be a secretary or be a manager of a small business in her town. She's ran her own gas station, been an office manager for a car garage- there are things she could do to change her situation. There are jobs you could do that don't require too much mental stress, not a lot of person-person contact, and have a super set schedule so things aren't changing around on you all the time. Would it be an easy job to find? No, but life isn't meant to be easy.
Yes, I've come off as completely judgmental, and I am judging you- but I'm also judging the whole system. It's flawed and obviously that's not your fault, but to go from my "far away" viewpoint of this issue to encountering someone who is actually participating in the system I think is totally fucked got me angry. I'm not apologizing for that because I don't need to. You should try to learn how to support your side of an argument without appealing to pity or attacks.
I could say stuff, but I am stunned at your ignorance and clear bitterness. If you are as bad off as me, you could have applied for SSI and got it, just like me. You either: A. Don't have Bipolar to the extent that I do (even medicated) B. Are just a bitter bitch. BTW- I take 7 separate Bipolar meds, and I still can't function enough to do jack shit other than sit on my ass in a zombie state from taking the maxed out dose of Zyprexa. If this forum wasn't moderated, I would have some scathing words for you, but for the integrity of my account, I will refrain from them.
BTW- I take 7 separate Bipolar meds, and I still can't function enough to do jack shit other than sit on my ass in a zombie state from taking the maxed out dose of Zyprexa. If this forum wasn't moderated, I would have some scathing words for you, but for the integrity of my account, I will refrain from them.
If you're aware enough to know you can't function, and that you're a zombie, then you're not a zombie. There's a line between being in genuine need of help and making yourself a victim long enough that you need help. I'm not saying I'm not as sick as you, or that I'm better than you, but I do not think it is right for my government to support you, nor for my hard earned money to go to you and people like you.
I wouldn't mind paying to help someone who had worked for several years, got into an accident through no fault of their own, and needed help to get back on their feet or money until some form of insurance kicked in. The government should not support any family or individual on a long term basis for anything less than that.
I don't see how you can feel right about taking money from a work force you haven't contributed to. I'm not ignorant in any sense of the word, but of course I'm bitter. I have a voice in my government as stated by the constitution, yet I have to lay down and get anally raped (in a financial sense) by that government every day that I work. The extent of our social programs never bothered me until I became a part of the working class. I don't understand how the government can say that you don't need to work, that they'll take care of you. I'm entirely entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours. If you can't handle that, then get off the internet because I'm not the last person you're going to disagree with.
Quote: from Rickenbacker at 4:12 pm on Feb. 8, 2010 Quote: from See Me Now at 3:04 am on Feb. 8, 2010 Quote: from Rickenbacker at 8:24 am on Feb. 2, 2010 Bipolar Disorder isn't visible and is a disability (I receive disability for it from the US Social Security Agency). It is not visible in me, unless of course I get overly depressed or agitated. Well that's wonderful. The hundreds of dollars I paid in taxes today go to support you and your mental issues. Wonderful. Would you rather me go on a killing spree? Or be homeless? That sounds really humanitarian. People like you make me want to vomit. Try putting yourself into someone else's shoes, you self-centered piece of rubbish.I am in your shoes, ass hole. I don't make enough money to support my household, I live paycheck to paycheck- too much of which goes to the medications that keep me healthy and living. I don't go on disability and have other people bear my burdens for me just because I need medications to be "normal" or because I don't make enough money. It's not about being humanitarian, it's about the government using too much of tax payer's money to support those who claim to not be able to support themselves. You can get a job. If you're medicated, you can function enough to get a mother fucking job and do your best. If you can't make it, you find a way. You get roommates, you stay with friends, you get loans, and learn how to manage on less. Life isn't that hard when you take a step back and make a plan. 90% of my income is gone the day after I get paid, and that's just to cover my bills. Do I ask for other people to pay for my food? NO. I make it work. It can be done, and I wont stop being pissed off at lazy fucks who depend on the government to support them.
Quote: from See Me Now at 3:04 am on Feb. 8, 2010 Quote: from Rickenbacker at 8:24 am on Feb. 2, 2010 Bipolar Disorder isn't visible and is a disability (I receive disability for it from the US Social Security Agency). It is not visible in me, unless of course I get overly depressed or agitated. Well that's wonderful. The hundreds of dollars I paid in taxes today go to support you and your mental issues. Wonderful. Would you rather me go on a killing spree? Or be homeless? That sounds really humanitarian. People like you make me want to vomit. Try putting yourself into someone else's shoes, you self-centered piece of rubbish.
Quote: from Rickenbacker at 8:24 am on Feb. 2, 2010 Bipolar Disorder isn't visible and is a disability (I receive disability for it from the US Social Security Agency). It is not visible in me, unless of course I get overly depressed or agitated. Well that's wonderful. The hundreds of dollars I paid in taxes today go to support you and your mental issues. Wonderful.
Bipolar Disorder isn't visible and is a disability (I receive disability for it from the US Social Security Agency). It is not visible in me, unless of course I get overly depressed or agitated.
You can get a job. If you're medicated, you can function enough to get a mother fucking job and do your best. If you can't make it, you find a way. You get roommates, you stay with friends, you get loans, and learn how to manage on less. Life isn't that hard when you take a step back and make a plan. 90% of my income is gone the day after I get paid, and that's just to cover my bills. Do I ask for other people to pay for my food? NO. I make it work. It can be done, and I wont stop being pissed off at lazy fucks who depend on the government to support them.
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